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Post by eirra on Nov 6, 2007 10:46:38 GMT -5
Ok, guys: A lot of us have scientists in the LIGHT and we really should star deciding on how they fit in with the scientists: How they are connected, how they feel about each other, what their rank is, etc. Ani, Kama, and I have been talking about it, and here’s what we’ve come up with-
Master Pursuit was experimented on at the college Jean De’Louvre attended, and because Louvre was heavily involved in genetics, he was part of the experiment. As such, Jean knew MP long before LIGHT. However, soon the experiment was shut down, and the scientists were killed; except for Louvre, because he was only involved in part of the experiment. Later on, Louvre graduated from college at 21 years of age, and began to work with the United States Government, working with genetics. However, soon the genetics project was shut down, due to protesting by the American population. Louvre made his views widely known: he was angry that the genetic experiments had been shut down [after all, he spent years earning his degree in genetic science]. His views were unpopular, and so he was isolated and shunned from the rest of the scientific community. Ryan noticed Louvre’s loneliness and saw him as an easy tool to rise in power (two are better then one). Louvre was lonely, and eagerly accepted Ryan’s offer of friendship. Both scientists wanted to carry on with the genetic research, and Ryan eventually found LIGHT. He informed Louvre about it, and Louvre told MP, so all three scientists joined it. Louvre was 22 at the time. When Louvre was 24, he found Eirra, and brought her to LIGHT. Angry at the world, and harboring bitterness from his abuse, he wanted to use her to, essentially, destroy the world and rebuild it how he saw fit. Ryan and LIGHT began to realize that Louvre was insane, and refused to use Eirra for that purpose. Angry, Louvre left Eon and started his own project, Project: Destiny. Ryan and MP teamed up; Louvre did not talk with LIGHT, or anyone from LIGHT for twelve years.
During this time, Ryan continued his work with LIGHT, takign part in such projects as the Ti SWI 01 experiment [Chase], Thrax's experiment, Kama/Hallow experiment and many other minor projects.
However, later on, when Louvre was 36-40 [TBD], he tricked Eirra into flying over the Eon institute, and requested of his old friend Ryan to acquire her. Ryan and the LIGHT scientists captured Eirra, and Louvre joined them to continue his genetic research on her. He worked with LIGHT, but was not official apart of it, until the Eons escaped. In order to get his prize back, Louvre rejoined LIGHT, and began working with his old friend again.
TO DO-
Ok, I think we still need to figure out: during the twelve or sixteen years Louvre was gone, what were the other scientists doing? I talked about Louvre the most because I know him better then others (obviously), so: What kept Ryan and MP occupied, what projects were the working on, etc. Also, I would like to add Ryan’s and MP’s history to this post when Ani and Kama have it all figured it out and stuff. If we decide some scientists know each other before hand (for example, if Kaito wanted Roth to work with Louvre) I would also want to add the scientist’s (i.e. Roth’s) history to this post. Also, we should figure out how the characters relate to one another. So, here is the to-do list:
For Ani, Kama, and Eirra: We still need to talk/IM some more and work out any kinks we might have, get a definite timeline, etc. We are almost done with that, I think.
Kaito: Who is Doctor Roth? How does s/he relate to Eon? Is s/he a top scientist? Did any of the scientists (Ryan, MP, Louvre, etc.) work in Genesis and help genetically modify you? Who do you follow most [Roth, Ryan, etc.]?
Shyria: Will you be adding Typhos as a scientist? If so, how does he find LIGHT, what is his ranking, how does he relate to the other scientists? And take your time, no pressure :-)
Night: Who is Beth? Who does she relate to LIGHT? What is her ranking?
Tusami: We need a timeline for LIGHT. And judging from what Ani, Kama, and I have talked about, LIGHT needs to have existed for at least 18-20 years. So I need to talk to you about that xD
So what I wanna do is have a HUGE IM session someday and see what we can figure out. Also, I would like to list how the scientists feel about each other, since that will decide
How The Scientists Feel About Each Other:
ROTH Louvre- tba MP- tba Ryan- tba Beth- tba
DE' LOUVRE Roth- tba MP- At first, Louvre is friends with MP, but later, he finds his hyperness to be an extreme annoyance, and tries to avoid him at all costs. Ryan- At first they are friends, but I think as Ryan starts to realize that Louvre his not mentally healthy, they will probably begin to drift apart. Beth- tba
MASTER PURSUIT [MP] Roth- tba Louvre- They are friends at first, as for later on, Kama and I still need to talk xD Ryan- Friends at first, Ani and I still need to talk. Beth- tba
RYAN Roth- tba Louvre- Friends at first, Ani and I still need to talk MP- He is incredibly annoyed with him; more info tba Beth- He loathes her and is always competeing against her. Was once blackmailed by her.
BETH Roth- tba Louvre- tba MP- tba Ryan- Although they are the same rank, she hates him and they are always fighting and competing. At one point, she discovers Ryan's special wings, and threatens to blackmail him.
I will update this post as more information becomes available; Also, I’ll be IMing ya’ll, probably, to try and make some more progress [Oh, and Night; could I have your IM? Or perhaps you could IM Ani, and we can talk that way. Thx.]. Thanks everybody!
- [glow=red,2,300]Eirra [/glow]
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Post by animeg on Nov 6, 2007 12:16:20 GMT -5
Aw dang, you beat me to it. xD But yeah, that sounds like a good plan. Man, you're so much more organized then me. xD
Anyway, from the discussions Night and I have been talking about Ryan and Beth, all I know is that they are terrible rivals, always competing against each other and loathes each other. I believe they first met up during Chase's project. Beth is probably about at the same rank as Ryan is, maybe not as powerful as he is since I think Ryan's been in the LIGHT longer then she is but she's still pretty high up.
Later on, in the Eon story, Beth actually discovers about Ryan's special wings and threatens to blackmail Ryan... Which stirs up a lot more hate goin' on here. Man, these two seriously can't get along. xD But that's not till later. >3>
Let's see... Gah. I need to write down what experiments Ryan have partipated in as you already know, he was around for a long time. BD Since I am doing my homework at the same time and from the top of my head, I KNOW he partipated in- x) Ti SWI 01 experiment [Chase] x) Thrax's experiment x) Kama/Hallow experiment x) Many other minor projects I'm pretty sure there was more others, but I'll get back on you with that. xD;
Okay, that's all I'll say for now...
Oh yeah;
MP- He is incredibly annoyed with him; more info tba Lmfao, I couldn't stop giggling about that because it is true. I still don't see how Ryan can tolerate MP enough to not kill him yet. xD Maybe one day. >_________> xDD
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Post by eirra on Nov 7, 2007 16:34:02 GMT -5
Ok, Ani: i'm gonna add some of your posts to the main post, Ok? Tell me if I get anything wrong xD
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Post by shyria on Nov 7, 2007 17:22:35 GMT -5
Alrighty, here's what I sort of worked out with Kama: Typhos and Hollow are from the same dimension, but Typhos is a more powerful monster than her. So they both get charged with going down to the mortal realm and conquer the place for the leader of the dark realm. Now, Typhos has been secretly planning raising his own army for some time to conquer the magical realms and later the realm he and Hollow are tied to. He's been keeping tabs on humanity since then so he's learned of the LIGHT projects. So he travels to the human world, disguises himself, and sets up shop in the labs. Here's the thing: he may be strong enough to come and go more or less as he pleases, but Hollow cant, and-to the annoyance of both of them-their ruler has ordered that they work together. So now Typhos had to find a way to get Hollow over the barrier. That's why he set himself up with the group that was testing Kama. While he was doing that, he also kept tabs on the new Eons being brought in for mind control experiments and managing to save "the best" for his private army. No one knows where these Eons end up but they're definetly taken outside the labs to some other base of Typhos's. I'm guessing that he might have wound up in pretty high status in the Hollow experiment since he was involved with it for so long.
And as far as relationships, pretty much everyone around him feels some sensation of impending doom around him, even if they cant place the source. The majority think he's some sort of former Nazi, but still human. Needless to say, they don't like working with him unless they have to. I'm guessing only MP would really get that he wasnt human, but even so, Typhos is strong enough to remain hidden for the most part. He probably likes to mess with MP specifically since he's so sensitive to his true nature (and since he's an utter prick, obviously >.=.<P)
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Post by bi on Nov 7, 2007 22:21:57 GMT -5
Ah! xD Yea, Ani, Eirra beat me to this too. I was about to post up a LIGHT scientists thread but, no kudos for you Eirra! >( lolz JK. anyways, ok, Eirra, here's a suggestion. Can I ask you to make like a RANK for each scientist? That would be very helpful, especially when we start the actual rp.
Yea...we all need to talk more about the LIGHT scientists...well only those who have LIGHT related characters...I dunno. x:
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Post by kaito on Nov 7, 2007 22:45:15 GMT -5
Okies then, looks like I'm gonna have to figure out how Roth fits into all of this.
He is a LIGHT scientist who was slowly working their way up and as soon as he had the leverage of status, he proposed the idea that eclipse might be responded to better in hosts of different stages of development.
Of course, he was shunned but continued the project without approval and joined the little "I'm a rejected Scientist" corner.
Lourve: Whasup? Roth: *Sob* Ryan: Don't cry..... :[
If anyone want to make their scientist apart of Genesis errr... Eclesis, feel free. Anyways, Roth's party is crashed when LIGHT takes over and he goes to the school (possible founder?) and takes control of Kaito and makes him come there.
Eventually, Kaito and Roth meet up, Kaito is his puppet, but then the school gets shut down.
Roth: Crap. >:\
Kaito is finally freed, and confronts Roth and kills him. Or does he? Roth turns himself into an Eon in order to survive, and blends in, trying to find Kaito in the escaping crowd while Kaito turns all good and stoofs.
I do know that Kaito and Darius team up at some point, and I'm sure he could work with Typhos.
As for Roth? Not sure where he goes after that, he disappears for awhile, maybe all the reject scientist form a club or something and they start to rival LIGHT, except they have no care whether some experiment is humane or not.
Ryan: Oh I know! We'll make this have his vital organs on the outside! Roth: Good idea! *Zap* Eon: Blalhium........ *foam at mouth* Kill..... mee...... Both: Hahahaha!!! This is fun! ^O^
Then, I don't know what I'll do with him from there.
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Post by animeg on Nov 12, 2007 14:37:24 GMT -5
Hm... Sounds like an interesting idea you have for Typhos, Shyria! And it sounds like it could really work actually; I like this idea better. It gives the excuse for Typhos to be part of the LIGHT and why and how he and Hallow are 'partners'. So in general, he is the main experiment leader of the Hallow experiment; this is also a good opportunity for Typhos to meet my LIGHT scientist, Ryan as well! Since Kama would like to have him involved with the experiment as well. So yeah, this is working out really nicely.
Roth! There's a character I haven't heard about yet! xD Let's see here... Oh, so HE'S the guy who suggested the eclipse to be used in the early stages and the founder of Kaito then. But... I'm sorry but a lot of things you said... It doesn't make any sense. Why would LIGHT reject his idea in the first place? Not to mention, you would need a large group of scientists to successfully work on a major experiment such as Kaito, wouldn't you?
I mean, I understand LIGHT gets all controlling and be like, "BWAHAHA. We'll be taking over your experiment now! So tough shit sucka." But if Roth manages to take him back and sends him to the school, that would really get him nowhere since LIGHT is in control of the school as well. So, I hope you see where my confusion is. xD;;;
Oh, so, wait, the school actually gets shut down? When? I think we really need to establish a time line here because I'm just one confused puppy. xD But obviously, it happens much later on, doesn't it?
Uhm... Okay, wait, Kaito turns bad again after he turns good? Because, ya know, Typhos' one bad guy. xD And Daruis' just misguided. >3>;;;
Well, I don't know what happens to Ryan because honestly, he hasn't been rejected. Not to mention, LIGHT DOES do inhumane experiments! You seen what they did to Kama? Chase? Thrax? Ryan's a merciless scientist, he loves to spend his free time torturing the experiments. xD; So I don't see how LIGHT isn't 'humane' in the first place.
Though I LOL'd when I read what you typed up for Roth and Ryan, I can so see him doing that and enjoying it. xDDD
Sorry if I had too many questions, but yeah, help me out~! Thanks muchly. ^^ ;;; [/size] [/color]
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Post by kaito on Nov 12, 2007 23:14:22 GMT -5
Alrigh, I'll tell you what is swaz. Light rejected his idea because, at the time, they just had a breakthrough and wanted to continue with that, and also Roth wanted a ridiculous amount of funding for a project that wasn't likely to be successful.
For his staff, hmmm.... IDK how the LIGHT staffing process works, but maybe his workers don't even know the project isn't viable. Like, he forged a letter giving him the go ahead from some higher ups. Or maybe it's all automated.... *thoughtful staring into space*
LIGHT in control of the school. I guess we all assumed that, or maybe it was declared in some other post I'm too lazy to go find at the moment. >_> If that is the case, maybe they wanted to keep the whole change of management under wraps like Roth never had anything to do with it. Well, of course Roth is pissed and is all like "I'm send my minion after yo sorry asses foos!" So he targets the Eons steadily flowing into the school, or as he sees it, their doom and not just from LIGHT, but from Kaito too. If not, that makes this a whole lot easier.
Well the school doesn't technically get shut down, but after the great exposure, all the Eons who escaped try their best to make sure that no Eons go there. Their cover is blown, so no more mad science for them. Or ya know, [insert plot twist here].
Kaito turning bad after he's been good all year so santa will give him a rocket launcher.... For Typhos, he obviously can tap into Kaito's eclipse frequency, or whatever. Kinda like mind control, and he has magic right? So, just another monkey wrench thrown in. For Darius, (Damn, I just read his ENTIRE history) I'm not sure. Perhaps this alliance can be before Kaito is turned good? Dunno, I'll talk to Eirra about it.
LIGHT being humane? I thought they'd at least have some standards. But whatever, hope that answers your questions.
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Post by momaru on Nov 12, 2007 23:55:54 GMT -5
....I hate top throw another character into the mix especially because I haven't worked out even basic details like the name for my scientist character. All I really know are a few things. He's a older British guy, around 55 to 60 and he acts like a nice gentleman even though he's not. He's good at pretending to be a nice guy when he wants to. His specialty is in genetic manipulation unrelated to Eon mutants. He's also a complete nut job, and a xenophobe to the max. He hates all of humanity, I don't think it gets worse than that. Anyways, he obviously is the creator of Momaru and Akane. I have a few ideas for him, like he was responsible for sequencing the human genome in the Eon universe as part of LIGHT. He used to be a prestigious scientist within that group before they were driven underground and lost everything. At this point is when he sequences human DNA. When he and LIGHT began to move to their true goal by beginning to experiment with altering DNA and creating mutants, they were shut down and had to go into hiding. At that time, even LIGHT blamed him for their downfall, and he went completely insane. From that point he continued to work on his projects in secret, and eventually managed to create Momaru and Akane with the goal of showing LIGHT that he had surpassed them and rejoining their ranks. Eventually he obtains this, but his creations soon escape and he is once again made a mockery of. During his research he came across something so unusual that even he lacked he ability to comprehend or analyze it completely, so he turned to the only colleague that he could trust Master Pursuit. Eventually their research together and with the eventual aid of many others resulted in the discovery of the Eon code. Finally he had achieved respect once again amongst LIGHT. Currently he works on any genetic engineering, specifically in the creation of various types of mutants including Eon types. He's high ranking, and probably the head of genetic research not pertaining to Eons (although he still does work with Eon related things). However, his real goal of world domination and replacing the human race with a “master” race remains. Oh, and yes, he despises Eon's too. It's part of his xenophobia. He sees them as being the slave class in his version of the perfect society. Of course none of this is final, and probably throws lots of kinks into the story. I really like the i So if you have any suggestions I would love to hear them. I think it helps clear a a few things up, like who discovered the Eon code, even if he didn't know what it was at first, or what could be done with it. In summary, my character discovers the sequence for human DNA, does experiments on creating super humans and other mutants by altering their DNA, and starts the ball rolling for the creation of Eon mutants, even if he isn't involved with how the application side is worked out. He discovers the Eon code, and his research with MP is the basis for all further uses of the Eon code like making the Eon mutants and Eclipse. Simply put, he discovers the Eon code, not how to use it.
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Post by animeg on Nov 13, 2007 13:19:28 GMT -5
swaz...? Dang you kids and your slang words. xDDD
Oh, alright, now I see. That does make sense but I'm guessing you don't know what this breakthrough the LIGHT have, right? xD;;
Hmm... Seems to me that you have a lot more of thinking to do on that part. x3 Though maybe Roth actually already started the experiment and when the LIGHT sees that it was working, they give him the permission to finish?
But then again, that contridicts with this next part about Roth getting pissed off. Is it simply because LIGHT took over the experiment? Oh, wait... no... Okay I'm confusing myself now. xD But you're saying that Roth uses Kaito to kill LIGHT and the Eons or am I not understanding what you said?
Yeah, yeah, it'd make sense that the school would be shut down evenutally. xD Alright then, just wanted to be sure. :3
Oh yeah, almost forgot Typhos was part of the LIGHT before so it'd make sense that he'd know how to do that. Poor Kaito, as if he hasn't been mind-controlled enough before. xD
I don't even know anymore, but I do know Ryan's going to hurt his experiments wheather it's allowed or not. Eh heh! You're such a bastard Ryan. Ryan: Yes, I am well aware of that.
Sorry to drag out this conversations with more questions, I know, I'm one confused puppy. *hides under desk*
Wow, yet another LIGHT sciencist? Well, to be honest, I never got around to read Momaru or Akane's history before so I can't say that I fully understand your case, Bryce. ....Not to mention that you used words that I don't even know what they MEAN. BD;
But I do have questions for you.... Well.... for everybody actually. WHAT. IS. THE. GODDAMNED. TIMELINE? At least for the LIGHT. Bryce, you are talking as if LIGHT has been around long before the government starts to shut down laboratories and such. But yet, from what me and Eirra and Kama assuming, LIGHT was fairly new when they joined it. And from what I could understand from the Eon Storyline Proposal, LIGHT began to form together soon AFTER the govenment shut genetic experiments down.
So, in short, you're proposing that this character with no name is going to be one of the founders of LIGHT because that's what it sounds like to me. o_o I'm a little iffy with some parts but I suppose it could work.
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Post by eirra on Nov 13, 2007 15:06:21 GMT -5
[[LIGHT began to form together soon AFTER the govenment shut genetic experiments down]]
Yes, that is correct. But we REALLY do need a timeline, and LIGHT has to have existed for probably about 20 years, at the least.
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Post by momaru on Nov 13, 2007 19:34:30 GMT -5
Huh? Now I'm confused. Oh never mind, it says something like LIGHT was created in secret, but I think it'd be more interesting if they were in existence before they began working on the Eon stuff. It just adds more depth to them, why they are so driven to achieve their goals. I mean, the government isn't going to shut down a research project unless they are doing something really bad and obviously morally wrong. The reason that the research was banned was because LIGHT began to do...what they do and people were so disgusted by it that the government had to step in and shut them down. Of course they thought that they were doing the right thing and continued to work on their projects underground. So I propose that LIGHT was actually in existence long before the Eon events, probably as far back as the 1940's and soon became the top and most highly respected research group in the world. Of course due to playing God, they were "shut down" and lost all of their respect. Some the scientists that work for LIGHT believe that what they are doing will someday benefit all of humanity. They are determined to show the world they were wrong about LIGHT's research by showing how it will benefit the world and regain their lost status. Of course the more radical faction within LIGHT that is currently in charge plans to show the world how wrong they were by global domination. So theres two major factions within LIGHT. The moderates who were with the organization before their fall, and the radicals who are the majority. They consist mainly of scientists that joined LIGHT after the fall. Certainly there's people within LIGHT like Louvre who have their own agendas as well.
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Post by animeg on Nov 13, 2007 22:19:01 GMT -5
OBJECTION.
I'm sorry Bryce but if you actually think about it, do the sciencists in the 1940's actually have super computers or the such? Because if you refer back to the eon storyline proposal, the reason why most genetic experiments that targets humans in many fields of science, labortories all over the America, and the such has been shut down because they discovered and mapped out the entire DNA structure of a human body and began to do something horribly wrong with it. Meaning mutants of course. Then again, at first they intended to be benefitcal... Of course, the public didn't stand for it and caused many problems, because of these problems, the government was forced to take action. Ever since labortories and experiments being banned, it angered sciencists in those fields and they decided to take it under into secret and keep working on their projects they worked so hard on. Of course, the LIGHT can be consisted of many different people, mainly sciencists, perhaps many had their own ideas when they first formed together into a group.
But you already knew that, didn't cha?
I apologized, I did rambled there for a bit. Anyway, the point is... I just don't see how it is possible for the LIGHT to exist that far back with the technology and the such. Unless you're going to pull something dumb like a magical opening of the spirit realm to give our machines an advanced leap in technolgy. Heh. In my own opinion, I say we should go for at least 20; something more reasonable.
Futher more! LIGHT came to be BECAUSE of the Eons since they practically revolve around them. Durr. So how could they exist if the Eons weren't around? So yeah, I don't know how the other people feel about this case but I'm against it. I'm sorry but your proposal just doesn't make any sense to me.
And yes, I am well aware that my spelling is absolutely horrible in this post but I really don't care right now.
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Post by eirra on Nov 14, 2007 14:20:18 GMT -5
Ani, also keep in mind that it IS a modified Earth, so the technology may be different, but other then that: I agree with Ani. LIGHT shoudl be started AFTER the government shuts down the genetic experiments, and it would be combined of genetic scientists pissed at the government for shutting them down. I like 20 years. That seems to work best for everyone
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Post by kaito on Nov 14, 2007 17:13:53 GMT -5
The Swaz part is a quote from the song "Swifty Five" by Group X. (If you really want to know, It's on albinoblacksheep)...
Moving on now. The breakthrough is Eclipse, before they see most of the subjects they test it on breaking out, being unruly, ect. Agree with Ani and Eirra on the 20 years thing, the whole since 1940 is a little cliche.
Also, there's a MAJOR plot twist Tusami and I are thinking about adding pertaining to the origins of LIGHT. Kama knows what it is, but we're not final on the details. So until then... umm.. eat a Popsicle or something XD
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