Post by Riley on Jun 9, 2008 0:28:52 GMT -5
Hmmm... I wonder why you keep responding to us then?
Anyways... It's quite difficult for me to remain silent and stay out of this, but as the former admin of these boards, I have a responsibility. Remaining silent won't get situations anywhere. So here I am.
Jun 7, 2008 23:54:56 GMT -5 @Drakkenshield said:
Before you try to turn things around against us, why not make a point. What have you accomplished with your lives? what are you ever going to accomplish? Me, I'm a chemist. I'm working to find solutions to the energy crisis. I AM accomplishing things. are you?I wear no mask of hate. my hatred of you is true and pure.
And if you're going to quote me, MORON, at least get the goddamn quote right!
First off, the mask of hate comment was more directed toward our friend Anon because that's most all he's been doing, spitting out witty, hateful, copy-paste comments and hiding behind his mask of anonymous. True it was Anon that posted the furry comic, and I actually have to agree with what the comic said, but those aren't his words. All he seems to care about is trying to shove mysterious anonymous quotes in our face. You on the other hand, J.D., seem to show that you have an actual reason to hate us. Though Anon did talk to us a little, at least you had the courteously and respect to directly talk to us. For that in itself I respect you a lot more. Thank you for that; it’s good to know that you have a reason backed by actual support to show why you hate us. I’m interested to hear more of your reasons why you hate me. Not the furries, not the Eon group, but me. Why do you hate me? You said you have reasons so I’d like to know, especially since I don’t think you know enough about who I am to say anything. If you do, I find it interesting to hear what you have to say.
The sweet nectar quote was also not meant to be a direct quote because the sentence would not have worked with the way you had worded it. So I apologize if "misquoting" offended you, but it is still using the words that you used yourself to describe our tears so I didn’t see anything wrong with that. The point is that we aren’t crying over this so you won’t have the satisfaction of our tears. I do not believe misquoting would be a logical or justified reason to consider me a moron. *shrug* Whatever helps you sleep at night.
As for making a point, I hardly see how flaunting our achievements and accomplishments helps to validate points or would be a good way to judge a person or give a good reason to respect a person more or even make a person better than the other. But if you insist, it can't hurt. All of us here are from ages of 14 and up. Most of us are in high school, I myself have just graduated a few weeks ago along with two others. The rest are either in college or living their lives how they choose to live it. My point being that most of us haven’t gotten far enough in our lives to do many great things such as being a chemist. But yet our accomplishments are vast and are varied as each of those accomplishments mean very different things between individuals. So what do you see in accomplishments? What achievement is great enough for you and what achievements aren’t? Are accomplishments such as simply living to see another day as important as working hard enough to earn a promotion? My greatest accomplishments in life are living and loving, as everything else will not matter in the end. I am grateful for my absolutely wonderful life with loving family and friends. I’ve had my fair share of problems, but I’ve never had trouble at home, never had any sort of life-threatening event, only the simple things everyone goes through in life. So I am grateful for that. How can you call me a “wannabe emo” as you state in your later post?
I have been accepted to an art college and plan to major in animation. I have won many scholarships, awards, achievements, and worked hard to get where I am today. A few days ago, I landed an internship with URS corp to strengthen my graphic design and 3D animation skills in order to put my foot in the door and be one step ahead of the game in college. I have already done several freelance jobs in patient projects, graphic design, and commissions. I am making something of myself. Though you may be a chemist and I congratulate you for earning that position and hope that you benefit the future, it is not something I could ever understand or become one myself. I’m a right brained person and I choose to use my gift and talents in what I’m good at. Science and math aren’t my strong points like they may be for you. You may be able to do calculus, but you couldn’t draw or understand the principals of design like I can. But both of these skills are useless to the other person.
Neither one of us is better than the other at being who we are.
I agree that science and math are extremely important to today’s world in order for it to function, but art and ideas are also just as important. If you do not agree, I can happily explain my point. The world needs us for our accomplishments. But the world does not need us for our hate towards one another. In fact, I do not hate you. I only dislike the things that you have done here. I do not know enough about you to say or judge you as a person. I have my prejudices just like everyone else, but I do not hate or dislike anything without a reason. I’m glad that you do not hate without reason either.
Jun 7, 2008 3:44:51 GMT -5 @Drakkenshield said:
I'm sure you're wondering why this happened. Well, i can;t speak for the others, but i can say this. I like to hurt people. I love the thought of watching you all suffer as your idiotic illusory second lifes are torn to firey shreads by my hands. Watch as it all flitts through your fingers. Watch as that which you cared for becomes nothing. Watch, and know that i stand here above you, laughing. Know that you are bested, and know that i enjoyed it. your tears are my sweet nectar. your suffering is my pleasure. I thrive on your crushed dreams. I am your bane, your boogeyman, your night terror. And the best thing is, you will never know who i am.-J.D.
You have shown me a little more of what you are like from this post. It seems to me that you are capable of being hateful, but that does not mean you’re a very hateful person either. I can only hope that you will see me as I see you: someone that I can’t judge because of things they’ve done or said; that doesn’t necessarily mean that’s who they are. Because of the group they belong to, they have a personal reason for being there and in no way does that necessarily mean the group makes them who they are. You being a member 4chan, as the furry comic says, I have every right to judge you based on the group you choose to affiliate with. But I know better than to think for one second that all people are really “domestic terrorists” or the site is one giant “internet hate machine” and that you yourself are a “horrific hacker.” I am sorry to hear that hurting other people makes you feel better about yourself. To each his own. Me, I like to help people and that makes me feel better about myself. Instead of crushing other’s dreams I help them achieve their dreams.
I know we’re both enjoying this conversation. I like talking about things like this. I like the more intellectual conversations with people who are willing to listen and discuss things with. At first I didn’t think that I would find myself talking to you like this and we’d actually have an enjoyable conversation, but yet here we are. I’ve always said that the most important things in life are happiness and acceptance. If hurting others gives you happiness, then who am I to say that you can’t hurt people? It still goes against my morality, but we must agree to disagree anyhow.
And sorry to say that you didn’t crush our little “second life” here. In fact, you’ve brought us together as an even stronger group. A lot of us hooked up at the mall yesterday, it was the first time so many of us had been together in one place since school was out a year ago. It was because of this attack on Eon. It made us realize a lot of things regarding our safety and friendships and we banned together. So hopefully our non-suffering from this event hasn’t caused you to be not happy, I’m sorry. I like to make people happy, even if your way of obtaining happiness I do not find to be particularly pleasing, ethical, or healthy for the mind or body. I know that you will find happiness again elsewhere as I’m sure you’ve done plenty of other times.
Yes we care about Eon. But Eon was an idea and ideas are bulletproof. Eon is not a delusional world in which we have created to escape our own. Eon is a role-playing game in which we do put great thought and dedication into, but not to distract us from our lives. Eon is unlike other role-playing games however, it is foremost an experiment in the way a story is developed. We wanted Eon to be different in its creation: a group effort constructed by individuals’ ideas coming together to create a unique, well thought out, and deep storyline. In fact, I don’t view Eon as simply an RPG anymore. I view it more like a novel; a beautifully crafted story in which one is able to read and enjoy and then create their own idea from it and add onto the story. Just like the world of Harry Potter, there is fan-art and fan-fiction and role-plays etc. created by other people. It’s the same thing with Eon, but it is us who do the fan-art and fan-fiction and role-plays for our own world. We the creators are the fans, and in turn, we can change and add onto the story to make it better and more complex. These boards serve as a meeting place for us to discuss our ideas and add onto the world of Eon as well as a place for our personal lives. Sure you may have come in here and blocked us from accessing the site, but you have far from succeeded killing Eon or our friendships, if that was your intention. You came here to kill our “idiotic illusory second lifes” but you may be surprised to find that there is none of that here. We will simply move our idea elsewhere and start again with more regard to our safety.
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I find it funny that people who try to bury themselves in their "imagination" are acting tough. This is coming from people who are so afraid of the real world they do nothing but immerse themselves in realities that do not exist. You turn to your Pokemon, your Star Wars, your illusions of a better world, because you are too frightened to deal with our own world. This is coming from people who base entire parts of their personality, mind, and time due to a bra strap. A tad rich, no?
Also, no threats were made. All that was called for was for you people to rethink a topic.
Tsk, tsk. Overreacting. How... stereotypical.
Again, we’re not burying ourselves in our imagination. I’m not afraid of the “real world”. Ha! Have you at all looked at Eon!? Eon is FAR from a perfect world. Same with Star Wars and Pokemon: Both about war essentially. Our characters are not invincible or have “better” lives that we wish to have. They have it far worse off in fact. I cannot say I’m nothing like my characters, sure we share some personality, but many of us here have no connection whatsoever to them nor wish to be like them and live in their situations. If I was my character, damn would I want to not be in their world. Trust me, the real world is a much better place, but what’s the harm in creating another world for a story? All these unsupported, stereotypical, comments is coming from a person who as I said before, cowers behind the safety of the mask of anonymous and tries to harass others when we can’t even be effected because of the simple fact that you are anonymous. As you said before: Anonymous is no one. We cannot be harmed or be afraid of no one… but we can harm you because you know who we are, therefore we are not “no one” to you. Though we cannot see you or know you, our words are reaching someone. Things you say don’t matter as much because we don’t know you. If we did, we could be hurt more. If you were a friend we knew and loved, we could be hurt more. But you are no one. So unless you take off that stupid mask and show your face, we will treat you as no one and your words will have no power here. So I think it was both a good and bad move on your part for being anonymous really.
And because you referenced me personally with the bra strap comment, I have this to tell you… if you took the time to read that part you must have read the rest of it. If so, then you should understand that my personality, time, and mind were not in fact based off my bra strap, but it was my bra strap that helped contribute a solidified fact to the questionable personality that I already had. My bra strap had nothing to do with the initial thought of my personality, it only strengthened what I thought was true about myself, and later showed me that I was wrong and taught me a lesson. So in conclusion: My personality, time, and mind were based off my self image/proprioception (which is how your brain interprets where each of your limbs are located in space relevant to everything else) to provide me with the phantom limb sensation, my peculiar and involuntary actions and feelings, and the fact that I stumbled across a particular website I could relate to. Not my bra strap. If you still do not understand any part of this I will be happy to explain in more detail why I believe I am the way I am. Especially since this particular essay was put up back in October, it is a little outdated now and I can better clarify my points.
No threats were made huh? What do you call this then:
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You seem to think we are finished. You forget, some of you posted personal information. VERY personal information. We have your names, we have your numbers, we have your e-mail addresses. If you think this is it, think again.
I’d say that’s a personal threat. If it sounds like a threat to us and if it could sound like a threat to any law enforcement, it’s a threat. In the eyes of society, that sir, was a threat; even if you didn’t initially mean it to be a threat.
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-Furry Comic Here-
I also enjoy the fact that I haven't gone through anything you have. You all think that you alone bear your burdens, when there are others who carry much heavier loads on their shoulders. You convince yourself that you are alone in your uniqueness, that nobody feels the same as you.
You are wrong.
I, myself, did not have the best of childhoods. My father did not want me, and my mother tried to protect me from his wrath. I saw my family tear itself apart in front of my eyes.
Then I see people like you, people who think that the world has ended because they aren't allowed to use the internet. The world is not over. The world is never over.
Someday I hope you all will tear down the walls that have boxed you in your state of perpetual childhoods.
Anonymous hopes.
But anyways, as all of us are blocked from most areas of the forums, we cannot go back and search for any instances where we have ever said anything pertaining to what you and the furry comic claims we do. Did I ever whine about how no one will ever understand me? Did I ever stereotype anyone against furries or anyone from 4chan for that matter? Did I ever try to make furry “look good”? Am I spitting out “quasi-intellectual bullshit”? Please feel free to go back and find any instance of when I demonstrate any of this behavior so your point may be made.
And as I said before, I have a great life and I do not think that I alone bear all these burdens and certainly do not think I’m any better or worse off than others and trust me, I am very much aware that others suffer and have bigger burdens than I do. I am not alone in my uniqueness… did I say I believe that I am now? Or was that yet another stereotype that I did? Sure I thought there was no one else out there that had a proprioception disorder like I did at one point, back before I was even aware of the possibility of there being a whole community of people like me. Everyone thinks they’re alone or the only one to go through something at one point before we meet someone else that thought the same thing. Then we realize that we’re never alone in any situation. I realize I’m not alone, I know I’m not alone in my feelings. Hopefully everyone realizes that. Though I may not understand or relate to your feelings and experiences like you do, it doesn’t mean that you understand mine either in the way I do. But someone out there always does.
I’m sorry for your troubles with your family. I wish no one had to go through that sort of thing. I can only wish you luck in the future and that you make the best of your life.
Of course the world is not over if we can’t get on the internet! L.O.L. To the people who would actually think that, I feel sorry for them. They must be pretty desperate and I agree that that is ridiculous and horrible for anyone to experience that kind of pain due to the simple lack of entertainment. The internet is not my life. I have a great life outside of the tech world. I don’t spend more than a few hours a day online and lately I’ve been off it for weeks. I hadn’t even been on Eon in a week or so before it was hacked and would have stayed off it a lot longer if it hadn’t been attacked.
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I pull no punches. I am not perfect. But at least I realize that, something which none of you seem to grasp.
Back in the days of high school, I was not well liked. I had few, very few, friends. I was close to few, and the closest of those threw me by the wayside to score some pussy and never looked back.
Now, I ask you to look at yourself. In that situation, you all would dig at you wrists with butter knives and cry for your mothers. You would scream that your world is over, there is no way you would ever go on...
Now ask yourself - who is more pathetic, you or I?
I hope that Anon does look “beyond the gaze of Fawkes” but if he really did, then he probably wouldn’t be here harassing Eon. Ah well. I’m glad you realize you’re not perfect. I’m not perfect and nothing is perfect. And you say that you realize something that we don’t seem to grasp? And what is that exactly?
You were not well liked in high school? Hey look at that! Neither were we. I’m sorry you didn’t have many friends though since I can’t say the same for all of us. This entire board is composed of friends that we all went to high school with, with the exception of 2 people. It must have been hard thrown away by those so-called friends of yours too. If I myself was in that situation (oh damn, what I must have done to get to that position from where I am now) then I would indeed feel sad and alone. And actually, that butter knife quote was priceless! Haha! Excellent! That actually made me laugh... did you think of that yourself? Well anyways, no I’m not a cutter nor would ever wish to intentionally harm myself and the thought of suicide is absolutely appalling. Maybe I’d scream that my world was over, but I’d always find the sense to move on. I’d create a new, better life now that I learned from my mistakes in the old one. In fact that’s exactly what I did once remember? The bra strap incident? I made the best out of the situation and that’s what I strive to do in every situation. Including this one. But let me ask you this… what did you do in your own situation? You never said specifically what you ended up doing. Did you make something of yourself and start over better? Or did you put on the mask of anonymous and try to harass others and make them feel bad and tell them how ignorant they are about the severity of hard lives such as your own? I hope that that is not what you’re doing with your life. If so, you might want to re-think it yourself.
Who is more pathetic? Neither of us can answer that question. Not only because you assume you know how I’d react in your situation and I’m also assuming how I would act in your situation. Neither of can answer because neither of us truly would know unless it happened. No one can answer that question in the way you have formed it. Being more or less pathetic than something also requires someone’s opinion. It’s your opinion that we are more pathetic than you and it’s our opinion for the opposite. Tis a silly question to be asking really.
Jun 7, 2008 23:47:57 GMT -5 @Drakkenshield said:
the hillarious matter which i find is that you took my first post so seriously. Of course it was Dramatic. that was the fricken point, you idiots. a touch of dramatic flair to my evil gloating. and a subtle jab at you all to boot. it was a Kick the Dog moment. my last little arrogant hurrah for the evening. and you know what? I had fun with it too!When it comes to my reasons for hating you all, i'm afraid that my fellow Anon's comic about says it all, and says it brilliantly. It's all of you i despise. not as a group (Well, that too, but as a consequence of the following), but as individuals. You're like emos to afraid to cut. so instead you bury yourselves in this abysmal little world deep in your immaginations. If it just stopped there, i could forgive you, maybe even like you. but no. You crazy idiots just keep lying to yourselves, until you actually start to beleive this crap. Do you realize just how pathetic that is?
Understand yet? I don;t hate you for roleplaying. Hell, i play D&D, and I've roleplayed on forums myself. and damnit, i've had fun doing it to. so i can't hate you for that. I don;t hate you for the porn either. Doesn;t interest me personally, but it's not like you are looking at child porn or anything. there are worse things you could do. As for nerdiness? hell, i can out nerd you fucktards any day of the week, and i'll look better doing it too. so why do i hate you? Because you ruin stuff for the rest of us. the people who hate you most aren't the people who don;t understand you, it's the people who do. It's the people who would probably enjoy some of the same things as you, but you take it too far. People like you make anime fans, roleplayers, gamers, con-goers, and the like look bad. You give these groups a bad name. and that's why we hate you.
You're all so outlandish, it makes me embarassed to be a roleplayer. i've read that crap you've wrote. And you say i'm like a bad novelist. Get over yourselves. A bunch of emo bullshit like that doesn't even deserve the bandwidth it gets. It'd be funny if you weren;t so serious. Grow the fuck up and join the real world. Let me tell you, the people out there don;t give a flying fuck about you and they never will.
and for all your brave talk about the police, please, come on. Do you really think that we'd make a call without proper security measures? Do you honestly think that we'd waste time out of our lives just to fly to colorado to mess with your house? do you even HAVE brains? do you work out of some mental institution? COME ON! we know better. Besides, at least we have the balls to not hide behind police threats. damn eunuchs.
-J.D.
Horray! You finally sate what I’ve been telling everyone all along: This is not a serious matter. It’s freaking 4chan for crying out loud! The goal was not to come after us I our sleep… it was to stir things up a little, get a reaction out of us, entertainment for both sides really. Enjoyable for a little while at least.
And your reasons for hating me are still unexplained by the comic alone. I know there’s always gonna be someone out there that hates me for no reason, but the people that do hate me for a reason I find interesting. Since I’ve already explained that Eon is not our little fantasy world we use to block out our real one and we do no believe that it is in any shape or form “real”, I wonder why you hate me still. If you are talking about my proprioception disorder, then it’s much more understandable how you have reached this conclusion. Sorry that I was born this way, though not much I can do about that. But what would you think about it all if you were me? Would you arrive at the same conclusion? This is the way I have chosen to live my life. Do you believe in God or some other deity? If so, then that belief and strength gives you the same comfort as my therianthropy does for me. It’s a shame for you to hate someone for being who they are and what they believe in. Do you hate me for being born this way? What else do you hate me for then?
I’ve never played D&D before, though I have been interested in it. In fact, I haven’t role-played near as much as most people here have. Role-playing is definitely not a major part of my life. As for the pornography, I only looked at it once: the day I turned 18. Not my cup of tea necessarily, but I still appreciate good, well-done artwork. I don’t necessarily regard myself as a nerd either since I don’t fit the bill entirely. I also already knew that those things are definitely not the reason that you hate us. But then you say the reason you hate us and me is because I ruin stuff for everyone else? How so? What have I ever done that ruined something for you? How did I ever give you and the communities you belong to a bad name? What did I take too far?
You said that you’ve read what we wrote? I’d like to know how that is possible when the forums are blocked to guests such as yourself. If all you’ve read is what we’ve posted in reply to anon here then you better find another example. If you have really read all what we wrote on Eon, you would probably see differently; see what this place was really about. Please do not assume you know what this site is really about or what its members are really like as people. If you want to stereotype the actions or lives or personal choices or words or personalities from one or a few people to apply to every individual on Eon, you are being the very person you say you hate. Because you are saying how we believe our fantasy worlds are real and how we ruin things for the rest of you and we’re wannabe emos and we haven’t accomplished anything in our lives, then yes I will say it: you don’t know me. You said there are specific reasons why you hate me personally and I’d love to hear them, especially seeing how well you seem to know me.
Another thing I want to make something very, very clear though: There are only 3 out of 12+ members of Eon who affiliate with being a furry or involved in the furry community. It’s obvious that most of Anon’s attacks are towards furries and I wanted to make it apparent to you that this is not a furry site, a furry role-play, or any sort of furry hangout group. 3 people are furry here.
And yeah… this is more directed to everyone on Eon: He’s right. They are not gonna come after us. Freaking out about police and stuff… no. As I told some of you before: if they wanted to come after us, they would have done a lot more by now. Remember: It’s 4chan.
Well… I’ve most certainly waited a good portion of my life on typing this but it’s summer vacation and I’m a drama whore. Anon and J.D. are drama whores too. And when a bunch of drama whores get together, I don’t even need to tell you what happens. I think we all feel better about ourselves now after posting our bitchy comments back and forth. I do. And though I’ve told everyone not to post on Eon boards… hell I’m doing it anyway. Sorry. I just wanted everyone to be careful in what they say is all. Go ahead and comment some more. It’s fun! I’m having fun. If anyone read all that, congrats you deserve a shiny metal and my thanks ‘cause I know it was too long to be practical. I guess I had a lot to say. We all don’t have lives apparently… she says sarcastically.
So this might or might not be my last post, I donno. There’s probably more I have to say… depends on the kind of response I get. Thanks for reading anyhow! Thanks to Anon and JD for an interesting conversation as well. I’m off to do something more productive now.
Oh and one more thing…
Taro: “Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience”
I wanted to tell you that that was absolutely the best thing I’ve read all day! You get much lovings and kudos.